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BART officer arrested in connection with New Year's Day shooting [Tuesday, Jan. 13th, 2009|10:11 pm]
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UPDATE: The Alameda County judge didn't just sign an arrest warrant; it was a fugitive warrant. (Hat-tip, erg.)

http://cbs2.com/national/bart.officer.arrested.2.907738.html


(01-13) 21:36 PST Oakland -- Johannes Mehserle, the former BART police officer who shot and killed an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform on New Year's Day, was arrested in Nevada today in connection with the shooting, The Chronicle has learned.

Mehserle, 27, was taken into custody in Douglas County, Nevada, said Deputy Steve Velez of the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. The arrest was also confirmed by David Chai, chief of staff to Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums.

Mehserle was arrested in connection with an investigation by the Oakland Police Department into the shooting of Oscar Grant, 22. An Alameda County judge signed an arrest warrant, and Mehserle surrendered without incident, authorities said.

Douglas County sheriff's officials refused to disclose what crime Mehserle was accused of committing in the arrest warrant. Deputy Velez said Sheriff Ron P. Pierini would make a statement on Wednesday.

Alameda County District Attorney Tom Orloff was also expected to announce details of the arrest Wednesday.

Efforts to reach attorneys for Mehserle were unsuccessful.

The arrest comes on the eve of a scheduled protest at 4 p.m. Wednesday outside Oakland City Hall, the latest in a series of demonstrations in which BART has been accused of mishandling the shooting investigation.

On Monday, BART police turned over the results of their preliminary investigation to Orloff's office. The separate investigation by Oakland police was launched last week. The state Attorney General is also monitoring the case.

BART officers had detained Grant and several other passengers at about 2 a.m. on Jan. 1 as they investigated a fight aboard a train from San Francisco.

Grant was lying face-down when Mehserle pulled his service weapon from his holster and fired one shot into his back.

Mehserle resigned last Wednesday rather than answer questions from BART investigators.

His departure came the same day Grant was buried and a peaceful protest at the Fruitvale BART Station erupted into violence in downtown Oakland. Demonstrators set cars on fire and broke windows at dozens of businesses. By night's end, police arrested 105 people.

Chronicle Staff Writers Jaxon Van Derbeken and christopher heredia contributed to this report. E-mail the writers at dbulwa@sfchronicle.com and lfulbright@sfchronicle.com.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/BAM615A08A.DTL

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Why was he in Nevada? Beats the hell out of me. Also, don't read the comments. It's just not worth it.
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[User Picture]From: nihilistic_kid
2009-01-14 06:18 am (UTC)
NEVADA!

That's ballsy.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 07:07 am (UTC)
One person's saying he heard he was a fugitive; most are suggesting he was in protective custody. *shrugs*
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[User Picture]From: nihilistic_kid
2009-01-14 07:13 am (UTC)
People shouldn't believe everything they think:

Since he was arrested in Nevada, he will face an extradition hearing before returning to Alameda County, a process that could take at least a few days.

He went to Nevada on his own — whether to hide or to run. Thus the need for extradition. The police wouldn't have let him cross state lines to secure him as they couldn't actually secure him in another state — plus, California is fairly gigantic. (Hell, the Bay Area can fit the East Coast between Boston and New York.)
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 07:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, there are places he would, in fact, be cheered as a hero not even two hours out of Oakland.

Thanks for the link--I'm flipping back and forth between all the network news trying to get something more than "Douglas County is working on a press release."
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[User Picture]From: erg
2009-01-14 06:26 am (UTC)
Bart Police, let's just take away their guns. They don't need a law degree to be hired.

Oh, and could we stop paying for Proof of Payment checkers? I know it's a very expensive ticket on the mainly poor who skip out on paying the fare and slipping through the back doors, but seriously, do we really need to be giving anyone the full time job to do this stuff? Multiple people? Insane. Fire them, not social workers.



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[User Picture]From: jette
2009-01-14 06:28 am (UTC)
Also, don't read the comments. It's just not worth it.

I was just telling Mikki on her post that SFGate = don't read the comments for just about any story.

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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:32 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's a waste of time. You don't need to leave Livejournal to see that much stupid on parade.
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[User Picture]From: jette
2009-01-14 07:50 am (UTC)
Exactly, with a heaping side dish of "as long as we're anonymous, why don't we be racist here as we've always only dreamed of being in real life?"
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[User Picture]From: gordonzola
2009-01-14 05:13 pm (UTC)
an LJ friend said his dream was a program that blocked out comments on all mass media websites because they are all so awful but he couldn't help looking at them anyway. You're totally right about the sports ones.
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[User Picture]From: elusis
2009-01-16 08:18 am (UTC)
I suffer from this disease.
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[User Picture]From: jetspeaks
2009-01-14 09:30 am (UTC)
Oh. For some reason I thought fightingwords meant don't read the comments to this post here. As if there were some doofus trolling again...

Duh. :)
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[User Picture]From: jette
2009-01-14 03:58 pm (UTC)
It's not like that doesn't happen!
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[User Picture]From: jetspeaks
2009-01-14 05:33 pm (UTC)
Well, yeah! It made perfect sense, but of course, being inquisitive and also a masochist, I decided to look at her comments anyway. Good thing too... :)
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[User Picture]From: intoner
2009-01-14 06:38 am (UTC)
maybe he was relocated over there? I remember reading something about him being moved several times due to death threats.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:48 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's what most folks are guessing, though I find it curious that they wouldn't say so. Could still be the case, tho.
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[User Picture]From: mysterc
2009-01-14 06:39 am (UTC)
Makes sense to go to Nevada, his name and adressed were published and his family was receiving death threats.

Why oh why did I not heed your warning on not reading the comments? I am actually scared of what the moderators removed.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:45 am (UTC)
I think I looked at 2 and kept it moving.
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[User Picture]From: und1sk0
2009-01-14 06:41 am (UTC)
I sure as shit wouldn't be anywhere in the Bay Area if I was him.

I'm just surprised that the Alameda County Sheriffs Department or CA B of I didn't ask him to stay in the state. "Thin blue line," I guess.

Did you see this?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/09/new.orleans.shooting/
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:46 am (UTC)
Yep. Saw that a couple days ago. Also, the shooting in Houston. I guess it's open season.
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From: delux_vivens
2009-01-14 08:00 am (UTC)
WHen is it not open season?
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 08:10 am (UTC)
True.
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[User Picture]From: conditionbronze
2009-01-14 06:42 am (UTC)
reading pages and pages of comments articles is how I engage in self abuse.

Also just heard he actually got caught as a fugitive. So I guess he did try to flee.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:46 am (UTC)
RILLY? Do you have a link?
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[User Picture]From: conditionbronze
2009-01-14 06:52 am (UTC)
Watching the news right now. That's what they said. I'm also reading Watchmen at the same time so I only really heard "caught" and "fugitive"
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 06:57 am (UTC)
Interesting.
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[User Picture]From: erg
2009-01-14 07:43 am (UTC)
He's a blooming idiot. Can I go that far? Gee, what's the difference between reaching over there, to grab my tazer (Aren't the buttons different on a tazer than how one pulls the trigger on a gun?) and reaching as I've been to trained to do lots of times, not like the tazer, to go for my gun...gee, let me put the guys I work with in the line of fire...

I mean, I can see grabbing the wrong thing, I can even see getting it like, six inches out of it's holster, but anything more than that, breaks so many protocols, trainings, the circumstances under which any of this should/might be considered are so far fetched, that this guy is going to need a Twinkie Defense. And then, to quit the force, rather than let the Union and the team of lawyers the police have, on his side... I mean, you know what? Maybe he's just doing us all one big karmic favor after killing someone, maybe he's just handing himself over on a platter of stupidity so they can throw the book at him, as ought to be done, at the least expense to the tax payers.

I think Bart, ought to be forced to put a bronze statue up, of Oscar laying on the ground handcuffed with three officers standing over him, just to give some kind of monument to what should not have ever been taking place.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 07:47 am (UTC)
I've heard, but have not gotten it validated, that they carry their tasers and guns on opposite sides. I'd like to know for sure.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 08:11 am (UTC)
Thanks.
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[User Picture]From: danger_mousekin
2009-01-14 09:19 pm (UTC)
also had this convo today. taser is carried on the left side of the body.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 09:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that's what seems to be the case.
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[User Picture]From: mysterc
2009-01-14 11:01 am (UTC)
Police issued tazers are actually very similar in shape and design to their firearms. The idea is that police officers are trained to use firearms and are supposed to practice with them and qualify with them on a fairly regular basis. Shaping the Tazer so that it has a familiar shape/firing mechanism/sight picture etc. cuts the training costs. However, a tazer has distinctive patterns on the trigger to help identify the differnece. A tazer weighs about a tenth of what a loaded firearm weighs. A tazer has about a 3/4 lbs pull on its trigger if anything at all. A police issued firearm (unmodified, single action) should have at least a 5-6lb trigger pull.

This guy quit the force because he f'd up and he knew it. I am sure the police unions and legal department let him know in no uncertain terms that there was nothing they could do for him. You can bet that was the first call he made. Can you imagine what his partner that was less than a foot away from the bullet was thinking? After the "Oh sh_t!" That man needs a medal for not issuing a beat down right there on the platform.

I agree with the statue, but over time it would turn into the cops being heroes protecting the riders from thugs.

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[User Picture]From: erg
2009-01-14 06:22 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the run down.

As for the Statue, I miswrote, I think two of the officers should be where they were, on top of Oscar, putting them in the line of fire. I feel like an ass talking about someone who is not a "historical or public" figure like this, but he should be a historical figure, so this stops happening.
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[User Picture]From: whittles
2009-01-14 08:29 am (UTC)
Man, that shit's worse than cutting or heavy drinking. I swear I'll give myself an ulcer from that crap some day.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 08:30 am (UTC)
Fuck an ulcer. I have BRAIN DAMAGE!

But tomorrow, after the protest, I get a new couch. That makes me happy.
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[User Picture]From: whittles
2009-01-14 09:04 am (UTC)
Wait, I thought that was happening tonight?
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 09:05 am (UTC)
Nathan had a headache, so we're going tomorrow.
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[User Picture]From: latemodel
2009-01-14 07:43 am (UTC)
I totally thought you meant not to read the comments in your journal.

So of course I was like, ooh dramaaaa!

And here I am.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 07:46 am (UTC)
Go back a couple entries if you feel like rubber-necking. It's given me brain damage.
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[User Picture]From: latemodel
2009-01-14 09:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's exactly the reason I thought you meant your journal.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-01-14 09:57 am (UTC)
And apparently you were not alone.
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[User Picture]From: unwoman
2009-01-14 09:11 am (UTC)
This is great news!
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[User Picture]From: mysterc
2009-01-14 11:35 am (UTC)
I'm Sorry, but I just had a vision of Dog the bounty hunter finding this guy in Vegas...

Nevermind.
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[User Picture]From: tristan_crane
2009-01-14 04:45 pm (UTC)

Awesome.

Yeah, leaving the state? That looks good. Not at all like you know you're in the wrong and are running away.

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