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In my fantasies, you don't exist. [Thursday, May. 7th, 2009|01:41 pm]
The richest girl in town.
What is wrong with these people?
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[User Picture]From: skywardprodigal
2009-05-07 08:46 pm (UTC)
You want a list?

Heartless to start.

Hateful's another.


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[User Picture]From: kynn
2009-05-07 09:02 pm (UTC)
The comment thread had a very specific OH LOIS BUJOLD NO point where I did say that phrase out loud.
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[User Picture]From: pantryslut
2009-05-07 08:52 pm (UTC)
Oh sigh. [ETA: Yet another] Someone I expected better of.

Edited at 2009-05-07 08:53 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-05-07 11:23 pm (UTC)
But it's feminist literature, so that makes it all okay.
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[User Picture]From: joethelionn
2009-05-07 08:53 pm (UTC)
"Aphrikan"???

Well at least "Columbia" isn't populated by magical negroes...
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[User Picture]From: kynn
2009-05-07 09:03 pm (UTC)
Actually, it is. The magical negroes teach magic to the young white heroine.

Eff is born thirteenth, supposed to be unlucky, and her twin Lan, born fourteenth, is the seventh son of a seventh son. The family dynanics, the frontier town they move to, to get away from the relatives, the way Eff studies Aphrikan magic as well as Avropan—there’s a lot about this book that’s just plain charming. Also, as I may have mentioned, it has mammoths and other megafauna, as well as the magical animals.
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[User Picture]From: brownstargirl
2009-05-07 08:54 pm (UTC)
The land is empty of people? Really?!?!
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[User Picture]From: kynn
2009-05-07 09:01 pm (UTC)
Don't you know? North America would be a fantasyland full of wonder and magic, just waiting for white people to show up and cast spells and fight steam dragons and ride mammoths -- if not for those pesky INJUNS!
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[User Picture]From: yeloson
2009-05-07 09:02 pm (UTC)
Well, you know the best way to write a fantasy where there's no racism is where all the people you can be racist against don't exist or live very far away and never show up in the stories! Just like how Friends is model tv for our post-racial society!
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[User Picture]From: yeloson
2009-05-07 09:08 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: 0ntological
2009-05-07 09:44 pm (UTC)
This is gross and embarrassing and, like someone else says above, I expected better from this author. What's wrong with these people is that they are ignoring the fact that works of fiction clearly mirror society. They think they can just say whatever since they're writing fantasy, and it doesn't matter. That's bull shit. I am a strong proponent of the idea that our fantasy says as much about us as our non fiction.

Remember that thread elusis posted about racism and fantasy, which I think may be the same article which is linked to above?
I will repeat what I said there, which is "Octavia Butler and Walter Mosley, thank god for you."

Also, I have been pleasantly surprised by the series I've been reading recently , wherein the characters are described as many races, and segregation and prejudice is explicitly approached, though it is between human and non human.
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-05-07 11:27 pm (UTC)
I am a strong proponent of the idea that our fantasy says as much about us as our non fiction.

But, but, but--this is FANTASY. It has NOTHING TO DO with reality.

Also, it's FEMINIST, donchaknow.
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[User Picture]From: sealwhiskers
2009-05-07 10:10 pm (UTC)
Ugh..first racefail09 and now this...
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-05-07 11:25 pm (UTC)
Well, I guess this is one way to avoid writing Native characters badly--just pretend they don't exist!
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[User Picture]From: fightingwords
2009-05-07 11:51 pm (UTC)
You know, this makes me want to write a parody so bad.
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[User Picture]From: elusis
2009-05-12 08:49 am (UTC)
You know, bluejo aka papersky is the partner of the very person whom I mentioned in this comment about a kind of self-centered, privileged derailing. I don't know her except tangentially, but it surprises me not at all that she might run in circles in which one would write "oh, the premise is that Europeans show up in North America and it's empty of people, which is so CHARMING!" and it would be completely unremarkable.

I've read a book or two of hers. I have a few more on the pile. I hope they don't join E. Bear's and S. Monette's on the "never mind; I'll just take them to Goodwill" pile.
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